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UW-Madison study reveals changing of Wisconsin climate

By Andrew Kasper

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Published: Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Chris Kucharik

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UW-Madison professors Chris Kucharik (above) and Dan Vimont outlined future scenarios for Wisconsin climate change at a forum Tuesday sponsored by the Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies.

Two UW-Madison climate experts said Wisconsin may be nearing a tipping point with respect to environmental warming at a forum Tuesday in Engineering Hall.
 

UW-Madison professors Dan Vimont and Chris Kucharik presented the most recent data projections on Wisconsin’s climate, predicting Wisconsin will face rising temperatures and more severe weather in the future.
 

They stressed the consequences of drastic changes in Wisconsin’s natural climate and said policymakers and industry leaders need to prepare for these changes.
 

According to Vimont and Kucharik, by the middle of the 21st century, southern Wisconsin could see more instances of extreme precipitation and three more weeks per year when the temperature reaches 90 degrees or higher.
 

They added that southern Wisconsin could experience 10 to 12 fewer days of subzero nighttime lows.
 

Kucharik said if even the most conservative estimates become true there could be huge implications for Wisconsin’s industry and natural environment.
 

He cited examples of the possible effects of these drastic climate changes, like the logging industry’s need for frozen ground and the impact rising temperatures would have on fishing and tourism.
 

According to Vimont, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change projected the future of climate change based on several different scenarios of human behavior.
 

The scenarios ranged from human populations discontinuing the use of fossil fuels to one in which humans make no effort to combat climate change.
 

Vimont said even in the best-case scenario climate change is still a serious problem for the future.
 

“We need to be able to adapt our natural systems and our planning for an inevitable amount of global change,” he said.
 

Vimont added that regardless of the future of human behavior, carbon dioxide levels are already too high.
 

“Carbon dioxide emissions have exceeded every one of the scenarios,” he said.
 

Vimont and Kucharik’s research is part of the Wisconsin Initiative on Climate Change Impacts, a study that was aimed at analyzing the effects of climate change on Wisconsin’s industry, natural resources and human health.
 

The presentation was sponsored by the Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies.

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4 comments
Gary Plyler
Thu Sep 17 2009 23:12
I have emailed a copy of my comment to the editor, and still I am not posted. Why?

Gary Plyler
BSME, MSNE

Gary Plyler
Thu Sep 17 2009 00:43
There has been atmospheric cooling the last 8 years, and no new high global annual temperatures in the last 11 years.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/wti/from:2001.5/trend/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1998/offset:-0.15/plot/gistemp/from:1998/offset:-0.24/plot/uah/from:1998/plot/rss/from:1998

None of the computer models replicate this fact. Anthropogenic (or man caused) global warming is not proved.

The global warming adherents base their argument of proof on more than 20 different computer models called general circulation models (also known as global climate models or GCMs). Each computer model is composed of dozens of mathematical equations representing known scientific laws, theories, and hypotheses. Each equation has one or more constants. The constants associated with known laws are very well defined. The constants associated with known theories are generally accepted but probably some of them may be off by a factor of 2 or more, maybe even an order of magnitude. The equations representing hypotheses, well, sometimes the hypotheses are just plain wrong. Then each of these equations has to be weighted against each other for use in the computer models, so that adds an additional variable (basically an educated guess) for each law, theory, and hypothesis. This is where the models are tweaked to mimic past climate measurements.

The SCIENTIFIC METHOD is: (1) Following years of academic study of the known physical laws and accepted theories, and after reviewing some data, come up with a hypothesis to explain the data. (2) Develop a plan to obtain and analyze new data. (3) Collect and analyze the data, this may even require new technology not previously available. (4) Determine if the hypothesis is correct, needs refinement, or is wrong. Either way, new data is available for other researchers. (5) Submit results, including data, for peer review and publication.

The output of the computer models run out nearly 90 years forward is considered to be data, but it is not a measurement of a physical phenomenon. Also, there is no way to analyze this so called data to determine if any or which of the hypotheses in the models are correct, need refinement, or are wrong. Also, this method cannot indicate if other new hypotheses need to be generated and incorporated into the models. IT JUST IS NOT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

The worst flaw in the AGW argument is the treatment of GCM computer generated outputs as data. They then use it in follow on hypotheses. For example, if temperature rises by X degrees in 50 years, then Y will be effected in such-and-such a way resulting in Z. Then the next person comes along and says, well, if Z happens, the effect on W will be a catastrophe. “I need (and deserve) more money to study the effects on W.” Hypotheses, stacked on hypotheses, stacked on more hypotheses, all based on computer outputs that are not data, using a process that does not lend to proof using the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Look at their results, IF, MIGHT, and COULD are used throughout their news making results. And when one of the underlying hypotheses is proven incorrect, well, the public only remembers the doomsday results 2 or three iterations down the hypotheses train. The hypotheses downstream are not automatically thrown out and can even be used for more follow on hypotheses.

You may find it interesting what the head of the IPCC said more than 1-1/2 years ago concerning the lack of new annual high global temperatures:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1171501720080111

Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the U.N. Panel that shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, said (more than 1-1/2 years ago) that he would look into the apparent temperature plateau so far this century.
"One would really have to see on the basis of some analysis what this really represents," he told Reuters, adding "are there natural factors compensating?" for increases in greenhouse gases from human activities.

Also in this article from more than 1-1/2 years ago, Amir Delju, senior scientific coordinator of the World Meteorological Organization's (WMO) climate program, said temperatures would have to be flat for several more years before a lack of new record years became significant.

We are now more than three quarters of the way to having significant doubts about the GCMs, according to Amir Delju's own criterion. Which hypotheses in the models need adjustment? Which hypotheses need to be rejected? What new hypotheses (like Svensmark's solar-GCR-cloud hypothesis) need to be embraced and incorporated into the models?

Gary Plyler
Thu Sep 17 2009 00:17
I have attempted to post both last night and tonight. My comments have not been posted. Am I being censored?

Gary Plyler
BSME, MSNE

Doug Collman
Wed Sep 16 2009 22:52
Simply pay attention to Prof Reid Bryson, UW: (1st to predict the existence of the jet stream in 1945, CIA funds his efforts to control climate over the short term.... see the huge satellite dish?)

from Wikipedia:

"Bryson was an opponent of the theory of global warming and a supporter of the claim that humans were causing global cooling.[2] While he argued that climate change and a global increase in temperature are real, he did not believe that they are caused by human activity. Rather, he argued that they are part of natural global climate cycles, particularly the end of the Little Ice Age:

"All this argument is the temperature going up or not, it’s absurd," Bryson continues. "Of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air." [2] "

How many 3-story sattelite dishes have been erected on campus for V&K? What a bureaucratic
crock!

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